hidden experience audio
The focus of these audio interviews is the deeply personal challenges of UFO contact. There is a Patreon series with the same name, hosting special content for members. This podcast is hosted by Mike Clelland.
Episodes
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This was not an easy interview. Rachel’s story is heartbreaking, yet it's also a remarkable testament of hope and faith. Rachel and her husband Shane had a daughter, Kenadie. In 2018, they lost her to cancer. She was only ten years old. Grief shattered their lives. But amidst the darkness, signs began to appear—glimmers of hope, whispers of connection, and a path to something greater.
Rachel now runs an instagram page titled for11_together, a site dedicated to sharing stories of connection.
I didn't realize until the end of the interview, but this was Rachel's first time ever as a guest on a podcast. When she told me this, I was so grateful—this was a powerful and emotional conversation.
• for11_together on Instagram, HERE
• Rachel's homepage, HERE
Saturday May 03, 2025
Remembering Earl Grey
Saturday May 03, 2025
Saturday May 03, 2025
Earl Grey passed on to a better place on April 27th. He was MUFON State Director for Southern California. He was a beloved comrade in this small community of researchers and experiencers. I only met him once, but we had the chance to speak together a few times. He told a beautiful owl story on an interview he hosted a little less than a year ago. This excerpt is less than eight minutes long, and it gives an insight into this gentle soul.
Friday Apr 25, 2025
17. Simon Bown - UFO contact and the near-death experience
Friday Apr 25, 2025
Friday Apr 25, 2025
Simon is a very prolific podcaster with two shows: Our Paranormal Afterlife and The Alien UFO Podcast. He is also a hypnotherapist specializing in past-life regressions. And he just published a book, Verified Near Death Experiences.
We explore the issues of consciousness continuing after death and the UFO contact experience, and how these two seemingly disparate studies overlap. Simon is remarkably well informed on these subjects, and this comes from his years talking directly to the people involved.
This episode also includes a chapter from his book, read by Simon.
Verified Near Death Experiences, the book HERE
Simon's homepage HERE
Our Paranormal Afterlife podcast HERE
The Alien UFO Podcast, HERE
Sunday Feb 23, 2025
16. Mindy Tautfest—from NDE to UAP
Sunday Feb 23, 2025
Sunday Feb 23, 2025
How does the near-death experience overlap with UFO contact?
This show explores the remarkable parallels between these two mysterious phenomena. Yet there is more than just a checklist of similarities, there is a heartfelt story of transformation. Midy shares what happened to her, and how it changed everything. Her book, Dying to Meet Them is a testament to her powerful spiritual journey.
Mindy's book HERE
Her homepage HERE
Tuesday Jan 07, 2025
15. Kelly Chase—UFOs and the deeper self
Tuesday Jan 07, 2025
Tuesday Jan 07, 2025
You might know Kelly from her very popular podcast—The UFO Rabbit Hole, but you might not know she wrote and starred in COSMOSIS, a three-part documentary series on UFOs. This is a deep exploration of a multi-layered phenomenon. (The series is found on AppleTV and most streaming services)Kelly is known as a methodical and disciplined researcher. Yet, you might not know about her own experiences and the depth of her spiritual sensitivity. It’s this more elusive facet of the mystery we’ll be exploring in this episode.
COSMOSIS—The documentary, HERE
Part ONE—Through The Looking Glass: My initiation into the anomalous, HERE
Part TWO—Through the Looking Glass: The strange tale of Tom Matte and Upsight, HERE
Kelly’s book, HERE
Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
14. Shayla Paradeis—Wilderness, healing, and owls
Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
Wednesday Dec 11, 2024
Shayla is an author, musician, and zealous mountain traveler. She has accomplished the triple crown of the long trails, which is a remarkable achievement, both mentally and physically. She has also had owl experiences that have changed the direction of her life. This is a remarkably thoughtful and gentle conversation about the healing power of wilderness and following a shamanic path.
Find more here:
Her book Footprint of a Heart
Shayla's homepage
Shayla's YouTube page
Shayla on Backpacker Radio
Sunday Nov 24, 2024
13. Scarlett L. Heinbuch, PhD—NDEs, and the power of love
Sunday Nov 24, 2024
Sunday Nov 24, 2024
Scarlett’s beautiful little book, We Met on the Other Side, tells a remarkable near-death experience story—one that will lift your heart. We explore her life and all the overlapping events and challenges that surround the NDE. She is a powerful psychic, a Reiki healer, and a champion for the power of love.
Her website, linked HERE.
Her book, linked HERE.
Watch Scarlett’s talk at Rice University's 2023 Archives of the Impossible Conference, linked HERE.
Monday Oct 28, 2024
12. Sev Tok, a life of contact
Monday Oct 28, 2024
Monday Oct 28, 2024
I met Sev at a conference in 2020 and saw her powerful presentation. She spoke about her contact experiences and how she worked to integrate them into her life, allowing her to follow a truer, more authentic path. I was struck by her clarity and hopeful outlook. She is a powerful voice within this community.This was a fun conversation, and we both laughed a lot. But we also ventured into into the deepest waters of this emotional mystery.
She has a wonderful book, titled—You Have the Right to Talk to Aliens. This is a short, straightforward book that can easily be read in a few sittings. Her story is of moving beyond the victim, to facing her fears and working with the challenging emotional energies of direct contact.
Her site, linked HERE.
Her book, linked HERE.
Sunday Sep 29, 2024
11. Preston Dennett and Dolly Safran - Symmetry
Sunday Sep 29, 2024
Sunday Sep 29, 2024
Author and researcher Preston Dennett talks about his most recent book, Symmetry. He shares the mic with Dolly Safran, who is at the center of this mind-bending story of UFO contact.
Two people, each with a remarkable set of life experiences. Past lives, psychic knowing, OBEs, and an NDE—and so much more, including piloting a flying saucer! There is no way to sum up this breathtaking story in these meager show notes, so just listen.
Here are some links:
The book, Symmetry, HERE.
Mike’s very fun 2020 interview with Preston, HERE.
Mike’s 2012 interview with Preston, HERE.
Preston’s YouTube channel, HERE.
Preston’s homepage, HERE.
Saturday Sep 14, 2024
10. Red Pill Junkie and the role of the artist
Saturday Sep 14, 2024
Saturday Sep 14, 2024
Red Pill Junkie is a pseudonym. Don’t tell anyone, but his real name is Miguel, and he lives in Mexico City. Like me, he's an illustrator and cartoonist.
Miguel was involved with a remarkable project. He illustrated a set of Tarot cards, where the major arcana were represented by characters from UFO history. This project is at the heart of our conversation. We talk about creativity, and the role of the artist—and how synchronicity weaves its way through this elusive process.
And — there’s a Patreon EXTRA, where we continue our conversation.
The links:
Miguel did a powerful video presentation about these cards for Ryan Sprague’s ANOMACON conference, linked HERE.
See some high-quality images the cards are at THE DAILY GRAIL
Red Pill Junkie’s blog HERE.
I interviewed Miguel back in 2020 on THE UNSEEN, a show I hosted on Whitley Strieber’s Unknown Country site, linked HERE.
Presently, the cards are NOT available online. But, you can order them at this email address: ufologytarot@gmail.com