hidden experience audio
The focus of these audio interviews is the deeply personal challenges of UFO contact. There is a Patreon series with the same name, hosting special content for members. This podcast is hosted by Mike Clelland.
Episodes
Monday Oct 28, 2024
12. Sev Tok, a life of contact
Monday Oct 28, 2024
Monday Oct 28, 2024
I met Sev at a conference in 2020 and saw her powerful presentation. She spoke about her contact experiences and how she worked to integrate them into her life, allowing her to follow a truer, more authentic path. I was struck by her clarity and hopeful outlook. She is a powerful voice within this community.This was a fun conversation, and we both laughed a lot. But we also ventured into into the deepest waters of this emotional mystery.
She has a wonderful book, titled—You Have the Right to Talk to Aliens. This is a short, straightforward book that can easily be read in a few sittings. Her story is of moving beyond the victim, to facing her fears and working with the challenging emotional energies of direct contact.
Her site, linked HERE.
Her book, linked HERE.
Sunday Sep 29, 2024
11. Preston Dennett and Dolly Safran - Symmetry
Sunday Sep 29, 2024
Sunday Sep 29, 2024
Author and researcher Preston Dennett talks about his most recent book, Symmetry. He shares the mic with Dolly Safran, who is at the center of this mind-bending story of UFO contact.
Two people, each with a remarkable set of life experiences. Past lives, psychic knowing, OBEs, and an NDE—and so much more, including piloting a flying saucer! There is no way to sum up this breathtaking story in these meager show notes, so just listen.
Here are some links:
The book, Symmetry, HERE.
Mike’s very fun 2020 interview with Preston, HERE.
Mike’s 2012 interview with Preston, HERE.
Preston’s YouTube channel, HERE.
Preston’s homepage, HERE.
Saturday Sep 14, 2024
10. Red Pill Junkie and the role of the artist
Saturday Sep 14, 2024
Saturday Sep 14, 2024
Red Pill Junkie is a pseudonym. Don’t tell anyone, but his real name is Miguel, and he lives in Mexico City. Like me, he's an illustrator and cartoonist.
Miguel was involved with a remarkable project. He illustrated a set of Tarot cards, where the major arcana were represented by characters from UFO history. This project is at the heart of our conversation. We talk about creativity, and the role of the artist—and how synchronicity weaves its way through this elusive process.
And — there’s a Patreon EXTRA, where we continue our conversation.
The links:
Miguel did a powerful video presentation about these cards for Ryan Sprague’s ANOMACON conference, linked HERE.
See some high-quality images the cards are at THE DAILY GRAIL
Red Pill Junkie’s blog HERE.
I interviewed Miguel back in 2020 on THE UNSEEN, a show I hosted on Whitley Strieber’s Unknown Country site, linked HERE.
Presently, the cards are NOT available online. But, you can order them at this email address: ufologytarot@gmail.com
Sunday Sep 08, 2024
9. Remembering Leo Sprinkle, with Katie Paige
Sunday Sep 08, 2024
Sunday Sep 08, 2024
Dr. Leo Sprinkle holds an important place in the history of UFO research, and more importantly, he holds a place in my heart, and in the hearts of countless others who sought out his gentle guidance—this includes Katie Paige.
Leo was our friend and mentor, and he passed away on November 15th, 2021. He was 91 years old.
This show is dedicated to the memory of this remarkable, big-hearted soul.
Katie wrote a book titled Letters of Love & Light: Four Decades of UFO Encounters, Experiences and Sightings Shared with Ufologist R. Leo Sprinkle, Ph.D. This is a collection of letters from Leo’s extensive archives.
Mike's 2011 interview with Leo HERE.
Thursday Aug 15, 2024
8. Karin Austin—The challenges of contact
Thursday Aug 15, 2024
Thursday Aug 15, 2024
Karin Austin is presently the Executive Director of the John E. Mack Institute, but a quarter of a century ago she worked with Dr. John Mack to try to understand her contact experiences. In this episode, we dig deep into Dr. Mack's role in this mystery, and also the challenges of what it means to experience something so profoundly strange that it might be impossible to truly understand what that means.She is also working with Rice University as the project manager for the Archives of The Impossible, where she works with Professor Jeffrey Kripal, who should be no stranger to anyone who has made it to this page.
Karin is a thoughtful and passionate voice for the experiencer community. She has worked to share her own deeply personal and complex memories in ways that can be understood, and that can—hopefully—change our world.
LINKS below:
Excellent interview with Dr Kimberly Engels, HERE.
A moving presentation about Dr. Mack and the hard work involved in archiving his research materials, HERE.
Learn more about the Archives of the Impossible HERE.
Will Bueche talks about his work with the late Dr. John Mack on The Unseen from 2019, HERE.
Passport to the Cosmos on Amazon, linked HERE.
Friday Jul 19, 2024
7. Christopher Knowles and The Synchromystic Handbook
Friday Jul 19, 2024
Friday Jul 19, 2024
What is Synchromystism? How can you tap into its power and meaning? Chris Knowles, infamous caretaker of The Secret Sun blog talks about the mystery of synchronicity.
His newest book, The Secret Sun Synchromystic Handbook, is an instruction manual for understanding and using the full scope of synchronicity in your daily life. This is a glorious conversation on that ever-present force that surrounds and interacts with all of us. Chris walks us through the finer points of his required handbook.
Chris’s newest book: The Secret Sun Synchromystic Handbook.
Chris’s invaluable blog: The Secret Sun
We talk about the overt imagery on my bedroom door, more info HERE.
We also talk about a strange documentary titled C. G. Jung on Alchemy, with an article linked HERE.
Another excellent interview on the same book with Gordon White on Rune Soup, linked HERE
Sunday Jun 23, 2024
6. Ingrid Honkala PhD, the near-death experience and the beings of light
Sunday Jun 23, 2024
Sunday Jun 23, 2024
Ingrid Honkala has endured more than one NDE, and with it has come a seemingly magical ongoing interaction with her guides, who she calls the beings of light. Her journey is remarkable, but it hasn’t been easy. In this conversation, we talk about both the trauma and the ecstasy of her lifetime in the netherworld between a physical life, and an eternal energetic life.
Ingrid grew up in war-torn Columbia and has a PhD in marine sciences. She now lives in Mississippi with her family and two dogs.
I am recommending a two-part set of videos where Ingrid explains her first NDE as a child. This remarkable account is the foundation of all that followed in her life. She doesn’t tell this story in our interview, so I’ve linked them below.
How my NDE gave me access to Beings of Light (videos)
Part ONE and Part TWO
Ingrid's Homepage HERE
Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
5. Sharon Hewitt Rawlette, PhD—Beyond Death and so much more
Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
Wednesday Jun 19, 2024
Sharon is a philosopher, and this means facing the deepest questions. She has written Beyond Death, The Source and Significance of Coincidences, and a memoir, The Supreme Victory of the Heart. How do her different studies overlap and inform each other? Is synchronicity a lightning bolt from God? This is a powerful interview with heartfelt insights.
LINKS:Sharon's homepage
2019 interview with Sharon on The Unseen
Sharon's books
Saturday May 18, 2024
4. David Metcalfe in conversation
Saturday May 18, 2024
Saturday May 18, 2024
The contact experience can be elusive, but the flood of overwhelming phenomena can change a person. Powerful synchronicities, psychic knowing, healing abilities, and an overwhelming sense of mission—all of these can feel like a blessing or a curse.
David Metcalfe talks about the challenges of trying to confront the mystery of the UFO, and how creativity and “the story” can end-run the simplistic ideas held within pop culture. The real experience demands transformation, and the results are something altogether different.
Saturday May 04, 2024
1. Darren King/ExoAcademian—in conversation
Saturday May 04, 2024
Saturday May 04, 2024
Darren might be better known as ExoAcademian, his online alias. He is one of the most grounded and clear-spoken voices in this curious field of research. We cover some of his personal experiences as well as his ideas about the source of this mystery, and its power to transform. Here is a short list of links to find out more: His Patreon site. A recent interview with Kelly Chase on Dreamland. His point of Convergence podcast and website.