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Kathleen Marden / interview

November 26th, 2014

Kathleen Marden is mostly known for being the niece of Betty and Barney Hill, the first widely publicized UFO abduction case. She has also been an abduction researcher for over two decades as well an author working with both Stanton Friedman and Denice Stoner.

Kathleen recently came forward, publicly sharing her own abduction experiences. This act of bravery is the focus of our interview. This is a big deal, and I wanted to explore the reasons and emotions for her profound decision.

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Mary Rodwell / interview

October 2nd, 2014

Mary Rodwell is a former nurse and midwife, and she now works in private practice as a professional counsellor. She is also a hypnotherapist (including past life regressions), Reiki Master as well as researcher and author. 

Mary is also the founder of the Australian Close Encounter Resource Network, (ACERN). The primary role role of ACERN is to offer professional counselling, support, hypnotherapy and information to individuals and their families with anomalous paranormal experiences, particularly specializing in abduction-contact experiences. This is not a research organization, it is a resource for therapeutic counseling and support.

The focus of this conversation was on the tensions within the UFO research community. Specificly when folks are confronted with reports and experiences well beyond the simplistic materialist framework that defines our existence. This subject forces any thoughtful observer to look deeply into the multi-dimensional aspects of not only UFOs, but reality itself.

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Andy Colvin / interview 2013

September 30th, 2014

This interview was recorded over a year ago. I am embarrassed to say that it just sat on my computer until today. Right after we recorded it, some life stuff came up, and I lost track of it.


This conversation was to promote the book Flying Saucer to the Center of Your Mind, a collection of magazine articles and lectures by, John Keel, the man many consider to be not only the 20th Century’s premiere Fortean investigator.

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Dr. Karla Turner and her husband from 1993

September 25th, 2014

Dr. Karla Turner and her husband Casey Turner talk about their abduction experiences and human surveillance. This presentation is  from 1993. Her work is extremely important to know about and is rarely discussed by mainstream ufologists. She thanks Bob at the beginning of her talk, and that would be Bob Brown who hosted the earlier incarnation of the IUFOC. The podium has "Showboat" logo on it, meaning the conference was in Las Vegas. The youtube video is linked HERE.

I have been working to transfer the many youtube presentations by Dr. Karla Turner over to an MP3 audio format. This is a preferable  way to listen to her strong voice. The audio quality is somewhat poor, but the content is riveting. Her husband Elton Casey takes the podium at about the 35:00 time count.
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Sherry Wilde / interview

August 26th, 2014

Sherry Wilde was living an idyllic life as a wife, mother and business owner until 1987 when her community experienced a UFO flap. This prompted her to look into her own memories of a missing time event when she was a teenager. What emerged forced Sherry to accept her involvement in a terribly challenging phenomenon.

She was now faced with the indisputable evidence that she had experienced ongoing contact with extra-terrestrial beings, an it had been happening throughout her entire life. This new reality almost pushed her over the edge.

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Kewaunne Lapseritis / interview

June 10th, 2014

I read the The Psychic Sasquatch shortly after it first came out in 1998. I had come across whisperings of psychic experiences as well as UFO sightings, in connection to Sasquatch, but this was the book I had ever read on the subject. I was kind of mystified, and the one question that was in the forefront of my mind, was who was this author? Well, I met him in February of 2014, and after about ten seconds of talking with him it all became clear.

Kewaunne Lapseritis is a tall strong man who stands straight up with a power that that impressed me. He spoke about his experiences with both ETs and Sasquatch with a forthrightness in a way that I found oddly soothing. I liked the guy enormously. 


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the crew from Open Minds / interview

June 4th, 2014

Alejandro Rojas, Jason McClellan and Maureen Elsberry all work together at Open Minds. We talk with me about some of the challenges of putting on a UFO conference as well as there roles as full time UFO journalists. I asked them their thoughts about the divide within the UFO community of researchers and enthusiasts, the divergence between the "love and light" crowd and the "nuts and bolts" crowd. Those might seem strong terms, but there is a whole lotta truth in these caricatures. I really noticed this tension when I was at this years conference as a speaker, my talk was decidedly on the "love and light" side of that divide. 
We talk together for about an hour. At the end I've added about an excerpt from an interview with Richard Dolan that happened in March of this year. The extra clip is about  twenty minutes long, and we address some of the same issues that showed up in the opening part of the podcast. This interview with Rich is recommended, linked HERE.
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Brett Oldham / interview

May 25th, 2014

Bret is the author of the book Children Of The Greys, his own account of a lifetime of traumatic alien encounters. In this book he shares his own emotions of the challenging interactions with these small gray beings. He describes mind control experiments, sexual interludes, healings, unexplainable scars, hybrids, an incredible multiple abduction with another witness and a fetus being taken and the bizarre paranormal connection. The book concludes with theories and insights into the possible alien agenda by some of the leading experts on UFO and alien abduction.

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Trish and Rob MacGregor / interview on Synchronicity Highway

May 15th, 2014

Synchronicity (or meaningful coincidence) has been at the forefront of both Trish and Rob's journalistic output for the last bunch of years. The cover the topic well, with a focus on the stories as well as the speculation of what it might mean. Their latest book, a follow up to Aliens in the Backyard, is The Synchronicity Highway, with the sub-title, Exploring Coincidence, the Paranormal and Alien Contact.

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excerpt from Slaughterhouse Five

March 3rd, 2014

Reading Slaughterhouse Five (1969) by Kurt Vonnegut was a defining right of passage in the 70's. Here's an 11 minute excerpt where Billy Pilgrim tries to understand time as explained by the Trafalmadorians. This is part of an audio interview with researcher Richard Dolan.

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Richard Dolan / interview

March 3rd, 2014

Richard Dolan steps out of his role as academic historian, and gets down to the challenging task of trying to untangle the frenetic weirdness that permeates the UFO abduction lore. This was a really fun  and untethered back and forth conversation. We were all over the map at we attempted to dig into the stuff that too many want to ignore. We tried to examine the gulf between the Nuts and Bolts crowd and the Love and Lighters. Each divergent side of the UFO community are easily praised and ridiculed (and we do a little of both).

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Suzanne Chancellor / interview

March 1st, 2014

My pal Suzanne and I finally get around to doing an interview—with each other!

Suzanne has had lifelong ongoing direct contact experiences with whatever might be behind the UFO mystery. Alas, no easy answers. She runs a blog where she shares her memories and challenges, and she also has a podcast series where she interviews UFO experiencers as well as abduction researchers. (Does this remind you of anyone?)


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Brad Steiger / interview 2014

January 11th, 2014

Brad Steiger is one of the hard working giants in this field. I was delighted and honored to spend an hour in conversation listening to his deep, hypnotic voice. He shares many of his owl personal experiences, and he comes across as less an author and more of a mystic.

There is another excellent interview with Brad from 2011 (linked HERE). These two interviews will play well side-by-side, creating (in a sort) a full two-hour interview. The order doesn't matter, and none of the information overlaps. Each of these audio interviews are just a little over one-hour long.


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Kelly Cahill / interview

December 18th, 2013

This is the audio track from an interview with Australian abductee Kelly Cahill. The sound was lifted from a 5 part series of youtube videos, and they are all edited together for easier listening. This interview probably took place sometime in the late 1990's.

Kelly has a remarkable and well documented case. In August 1993, the then 27-year-old Kelly and her husband and three children were driving home after a visiting a friend. On a rural road on the drive home the car was stopped by a large disc shaped craft and an abduction occurred. This event was witnessed by several other people from different locations, making it a highly credible event. 

This is the audio track from an interview with Australian abductee Kelly Cahill. The sound was lifted from a 5 part series of youtube videos, and they are all edited together for easier listening. This interview probably took place sometime in the late 1990's.

Kelly has a remarkable and well documented case. In August 1993, the then 27-year-old Kelly and her husband and three children were driving home after a visiting a friend. On a rural road on the drive home the car was stopped by a large disc shaped craft and an abduction occurred. This event was witnessed by several other people from different locations, making it a highly credible event.

There is a very interesting bit that Kelly shares about the birth of her son, it comes late in the interview at the 43:00 time count.

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Bert Janssen and Heather Clewett-Jachowski / interview

November 11th, 2013

Bert and Heather are a husband and wife team doing crop circle and ancient sacred site research in the southern UK. They also have a very powerful story to tell that features a white owl. We spend most of our time digging into that event, which took place in May of 2011.

The way this interview is framed, the white owl event is in the center of the web, and we try to follow some of the threads outward to see where they lead. I think stories are more interesting than speculation, and this interview features a wealth of really interesting stories. 

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Colin Andrews / interview

October 27th, 2013

Colin Andrews brought us the term crop circle. He was one of the initial team of investigators that were looking into the unusual formations that were emerging each year around the world, but with a particularly flurry in southern England.

Along with is wife and co-author, Synthia Andrews, they've just published On the Edge of Reality. This book has the lengthy sub-title: Hidden technology, Powers of the Mind, Quantum Physics, Paranormal Phenomenon, Orbs, UFOs, Harmonic Transmissions and Crop Circles. They could have added this: A bunch of really weird personal experiences too!

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Elaine Douglass / interview

October 16th, 2013

There is a dark side to the UFO abduction phenomenon that seems to get lost in the online podcasting scene. Elaine has been digging deep into this research, and her conclusions are at odds with many in the community. What she sees is a cautionary tale, one that challenges my own outlook on these complex issues.

Elaine Douglass has been a UFO investigator for over 25 years. She holds a masters degree from MIT in military policy. She was with MUFON for 25 years as state director of Washington DC and then Utah.

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Jerome Clark from a 2009 presentation

October 13th, 2013

Extremely interesting talk given by UFO researcher Jerome Clark. He spoke after being presented the Tim Dinsdale Award in 2009. He addresses some of the stranger aspects of UFO reports and how these correlate to mystical events in history.


I lifted this audio from a 4-part youtube presentation. The audio it about 38 minutes long.
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Dr. Karla Turner’s final talk from May 7th, 1995

October 6th, 2013

This is an audio recording of Dr. Karla Turner's final presentation recorded in California on May 7th, 1995.

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Dr. Karla Turner / Coast to Coast AM 1994

October 4th, 2013

This is a two hour presentation featuring Dr. Karla Turner on Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell. This 2 hour interview has sort of scratchy audio quality, but really amazing content. 

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Mac Tonnies on Coast to Coast / oct 2009

September 25th, 2013

This was Mac's one and only appearance on Coast to Coast AM. You can hear it in George's voice, he was absolutely smitten by Mac.

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James Carman / interview

September 25th, 2013

The Hidden Hand is a feature length documentary directed by James Carman. The subject is the UFO phenomenon and all it’s complexities. A few years back I got to hang out with James in my old neighborhood in New York City. I’ve seen him a bunch more times at UFO conferences where he was hard at work on this documentary.

James is a really sensitive and thoughtful guy, and this film reflects the way he looks at the challenges that are running through the overall UFO phenomenon.

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Dr. Karla Turner / audio presentation from 1994

September 21st, 2013

Dr. Karla Turner was an author, abduction researcher and UFO abductee. This is the audio from a youtube presentation where she spoke at a conference in 1994. She died in 1995. This audio is two hours long. Sorry for the poor audio quality.

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Dr. Karla Turner / audio presentation from 1995

September 21st, 2013

Dr. Karla Turner was an author, abduction researcher and UFO abductee. This is the audio from a youtube presentation where she spoke at a conference in 1995. She died that same year. This audio is one hour long. Sorry for the poor audio quality.

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Dr. John Mack / Transcending the Dualistic Mind

August 16th, 2013

Harvard professor Dr. John Mack gave a two-hour long presentation at the International UFO Congress in 2003 in Laughlin Nevada; the title of his talk was Transcending the Dualistic Mind. This is the audio lifted from a YouTube video of his presentation. Highly recommended.

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Dr. John Mack and Budd Hopkins in conversation

August 15th, 2013

Legendary Alien Abduction Researchers Budd Hopkins and John Mack, M.D. come together to discuss what they've learned from working with people who report the experience of being abducted by Aliens. Hopkins and Mack rarely appeared together in public forums, this is a rare and heart felt presentation. Originally taped in 1997.

This is an audio transfer from a you-tube video (below). The audio quality is pretty good considering the source, the actual content is excellent.

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Suzanne Gordon, Ph.D. / interview

August 13th, 2013

Suzanne Gordon speaks about her research into the Near Death Experience (NDE) something she has experienced herself. 

During the interview she listed off some things reported as after effects to the NDE. Everything on this checklist closely matches what is being reported by people who claim UFO abductions, enough so that I realized I needed to talk with her. She even described these folks as suffering from the trauma of enlightenment, that was something that really hit home for me.

The audio posted here wasn’t meant to be a public podcast, it was just our initial hello after exchanging a few emails. By the end of two hours we both realized that we had achieved something really powerful. I am amazed at how deep we managed to dig during our conversation and I am so glad I recorded it.

During our conversation she uses an acronym I had never heard before, but I like a lot. She referred to STEs (Spiritually Transformative Experiences). 

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Jim Moroney / interview

June 21st, 2013

I first heard Jim interviewed on the Open Minds audio series with Alejandro Rojas. During that show he spoke at length about a 1987 abduction event that happened in the parking lot of a truck stop along the Trans-Canadian Highway. I was very impressed and I later read his book, or more correctly, listened to it. At the end of this interview I include an excerpt from his book.

Jim walks the fine line between being analytical as well as open bout the spiritual and optimistic aspects of the overall encounter phenomenon. It was this contrast that I wanted to explore, as well as his own experience as he worked to integrate these challenging life events.

The book is titled; The Extraterrestrial Answer Book with the sub-title; UFOs, Alien Abductions and the Coming ET Presence.

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audio excerpt from Whitley Strieber’s Transformation

June 21st, 2013

I am posting the final 12 minutes of the audio book Transformation by Whitley Strieber. The text is read beautifully by Roddy McDowell. This book was published in 1988 as a follow up to Communion published a year earlier.

The thoughts presented in this conclusion were written over a quarter century ago, and sadly, the UFO community (if there is such a thing) is still shy to even contemplate these ideas. To me, this avoidance of the core mystery is a sad insight into the workings of the timid human psyche.

I am posting this audio as a reminder that there are much grander questions at play than simply are UFOs real.

As a boy I remember declaring that Roddy McDowell was my favorite actor. This would have been in the era of The Planet of the Apes series and The Poseidon Adventure. My admiration remains. Whitley once commented that Roddy McDowell was very supportive of the his work.

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Budd Hopkins / 2007 interview

April 25th, 2013

I was involved in a documentary on UFO abductions back in 2007. The project was never completed but we came away with some really interesting footage. What I'm sharing here is the audio from a video interview with Budd Hopkins in his New York City home. You can hear the street noise in the background, a sound I truly love.

You can also hear the nervousness in my voice as I speak with Budd. He was asking me some emotional questions and at the time I was wrapped so tight that I didn't give him very clear answers. In this audio I edit in the answers I didn't give then.

It was tense listening to the person I was then, and I was obviously stressed out as I added new audio seven years later. I swear in frustration within the first few seconds of this podcast. I should probably edit that out, but it really seems to accurately capture my state of mind.

This was a hard thing for me to create. Partially my own emotions are still so raw, but more that it just feels sad that Budd is gone. I feel absolutely blessed that I had the chance to spend time with this thoughtful and kind man.

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Jim Marrs / interview

April 23rd, 2013

This guy shouldn't really need any kind of introduction, anyone who has made it to this site should be familiar with his books and on-line presence.

We cover a long list of topics in this one hour interview. Topics include UFOs, abductions, mind-control, the recent bombings in Boston, the JFK assassination, the global elite, ancient aliens, distorted time—and yes—the very nature of reality!

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Rob and Trish MacGregor / inteview

April 16th, 2013

The book Aliens in the Backyard has the word synchronicity right on it's cover. The overall abduction phenomenon might seem to have a defined set of boundaries, those crumble when you examine it more closely. Then you realize it's a lot more mysterious than just little scientists coming to visit us on metal spaceships.

Trish and Rob have written a book that looks at some of the more bizarre aspects of the overall lore surrounding UFOs. Their examination of the phenomenon includes divergent topics like synchronicity, psychic experiences, the occult, planetary empaths and the military aspects. They are both professional writers and their skill shows through in the well written book. It is also a personal journey where the authors play a role, so it reads like a first person detective story.

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HANGAR 18 excerpt

February 1st, 2013

Robbie Graham and Linda Moulton Howe team up to dig into the 1980 movie HANGAR 18 and it's CIA influence. The audio interview is played out in two parts. The movie is a heavy handed conspiracy story that premiered at the same time the Roswell crashed saucer story emerged into the public consciousness. Robbie's excellent research makes a compelling argument that something very strange happened involving the CIA, Sunn Classic Pictures, Schick Razors, NASA, The Mormons and The Knights of Malta.

The two minute audio clip seems to be part of some sort of agenda. Ham-bone actor Darren McGavin reads from a document that sounds suspiciously like something Linda Moulton Howe was asked to read in 1983.

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Bridget Nielsen / interview

February 1st, 2013

Bridget runs a website titled Hybrid Children Community. In less than a year she has had an awakening experience where she is in telepathic connection with more than one of her children. These are off-world alien human hybrid children. After starting her website she has been contacted by lots of men and women who have their own hybrid children.

Yes, I am fully aware that this is far out stuff. But it fits a very real pattern of reported experiences. What is most fascinating is Bridget's public conviction and the her lightning fast emergence onto the public stage.

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Freeman Fly / interview

January 5th, 2013

Don't ask me why, but people who clim first hand UFO contact experience also tend to be absorbed in conspiracy research. Nobody fits that better than Freeman. I've been following this guy off and on for years and part of me is mystified and the other part is fascinated.

Freeman (a pseudonym) has a pretty impressive web presence. He has an audio podcast series as well as a huge load of videos. As i prepped for this interview I got absorbed in both. I've included two videos below, and remember, these were created by someone who's had direct contact with UFOs.

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Yvonne Smith / interview

December 15th, 2012

Yvonne Smith is a clinical hypnotherapist who began her therapy practice in 1990. She started working with PTSD victims using hypnosis as a way to help them assisting them to work through and cope with their traumatic experiences. She observed that some of her subjects were describing a pattern of alien abduction and other close encounter experiences.

She has worked with Budd Hoppkins and Dr. John Mack as she continued her research with abductees.

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Chase Kloetzke / interview

December 11th, 2012

Chase is, among a lot of other things, a UFO field investigator. For the first hour of this interview we look into a very strange set of events in a muddy cornfield with several other witnesses. I had heard her mention this story in some other podcast, and I was amazed at the intensity, and I wanted to understand it better. We look at this one experience in great detail.

Recently, Chase left her role at MUFON after 15 years as a Field Investigator and Star Team manager. We talk about the serious problems at that very political organization and why she felt the need to leave.

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Christopher Knowles / movie talk

December 3rd, 2012

There is an almost forgotten genre of film-making that emerged in a narrow chapter of the early 1970's. Within this sub-set is a messy blending of creepy occult, ancient aliens and UFO abduction, and many of these were made for TV movies. Something weird emerged that seems quite evocative looking back on it now. The Ancient Astronaut Theory is interwoven into many of these movies. Adding to the overall strangeness is a blurring between occult satanic themes and the UFO abduction lore.

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Peter Robbins / movie talk

December 1st, 2012

Movie talk with my pal Peter Robbins. We dig into a few key movies from the 1950's with a keen focus on The Day the Earth Stood Still. Both of us ramble all over the map as we attempt to make sense of all the little treads that connect - and tangle - cinema and the UFO phenomena.

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Peter Robbins / movie talk

December 1st, 2012

Movie talk with my pal Peter Robbins. We dig into a few key movies from the 1950's with a keen focus on The Day the Earth Stood Still. Both of us ramble all over the map as we attempt to make sense of all the little treads that connect - and tangle - cinema and the UFO phenomena.

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John Clark / audio presentation

November 28th, 2012

This is an unsettling first-person talk on UFO contact. This is a recording of a presentation by a man using the pen-name John Clark. I read his book (POZAN, 2002) and it is extremely strange and unsettling.

You can hear the shaky quality to his voice during this presentation. He seems fragile and uneasy. In the middle of this talk he sort of awkwardly says: "... and then I tried to end it all, and I found myself in a hospital." This dramatic remark says a lot about the intensity of his set of experiences. I met John at the UFO conference where he made this unnerving presentation in 2008. My heart went out to the guy, he seemed deeply troubled by what had intersected with his life.

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Nadine Lalich / interview

November 16th, 2012

Nadine has had a lifetime of direct contact with non-human entities. She is a strong voice for the  people who are having these direct experiences. This is a very serious subject and there are people out there who are suffering with profound challenges because of what they have experienced. Nadine is remarkably even-keeled given the intensity of what she's lived through, and that makes her testimony all the more compelling.

She wrote a book along with her therapist, Barbara Lamb, titled Alien Experiences. She shares her own first hand experiences as well as a series of other accounts from Barbra's files.

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Chris Augustin / interview

October 20th, 2012

Chris Augustin has a pragmatic and centered presence, and that's rare within this phenomenon, especially when people talk about their own direct contact experiences. We cover a laundry list of strange events in a matter-of-fact way. In this interview he states that he started researching the paranormal (including UFO abductions) when he was only 15 years old. I was impressed.

We try to dig deep into his personal encounters with the unknown, and there is an obvious kinship with my own experiences. Chris maintains a website called Aliens The Truth. This is a dense collection of reports, information and research on the UFO and other paranormal events.

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Grant Cameron / interview

October 18th, 2012

Grant Cameron is a Canadian researcher best known for his research into what the President of the United States may (or may not) know about UFOs. During the interview Grant explains how his previous "nuts and bolts" research led him to the almost mystical connection between consciousness and the UFO phenomena.

Plus, Grant shares his deeply personal involvement in a UFO flap from 1975. This took place along the USA and Canadian border in Alberta. Hearing him explain the profound amount of sightings (including his own) was absolutely riveting.

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Susan MacLeod / interview

September 18th, 2012

Susan has had an almost impossible collection of experiences including owls, bats, UFOs, non-physical entities, ghosts, shadow beings, psychic abilities, healing abilities and a Near Death Experience. Having talked to her about other stuff, there is a lot more to add to this already long list. And I feel strongly that all of these things are somehow intertwined.

Plus, she has what is quite possibly the strangest Sasquatch sighting story - EVER!

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Mel Fabergas / interview

September 16th, 2012

Me Fabergas hosts an on-line audio interview series called VERITAS. In Latin Veritas means Truth. I follow this show for a number of reasons, one being that it is really nicely produced with excellent audio quality; alas, this is sadly lacking in our podcasting realm.

Here is an excerpt from Mel’s site where he explains a little about VERITAS and himself:

I am going to borrow this quote from Jordan Maxwell. "I am an ordinary man pursuing extraordinary knowledge." That basically sums it up. Most of my expertise is in international business and geopolitics. And I know enough from other subjects but can’t claim to be an expert. That is why I created this show: To find the experts and ask those questions that can help us get closer and closer to the truth.

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Jonathan Talat Phillips / interview

August 22nd, 2012

Healer, media activist, and author Jonathan Talat Phillips joins me to discuss his own experiences and his book, The Electric Jesus: The Healing Journey of a Contemporary Gnostic. In this interview we talk about to his path from darkness to light.

In this interview Talat and I talk about the one subject that might get ignored in more main stream resources, we talk about ALIEN influences in his life journey. We jump back and for the between the role of Christ consciousness and the use of psychedelics in the path of the modern shamanic initiate.

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Lorin Cutts / interview

August 8th, 2012

Author, researcher and radio host.

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Richard Dolan / in conversation

July 30th, 2012

On Saturday night, July 28th, I was a call in guest for one hour on Richard Dolan's audio program, called TRUTH OUT RADIO. We spoke together about UFOs, abductions and sychronicities.

In the final minutes the topic turned to Mac Tonnies, and i brought up the essays we both wrote about cats and how they are a metaphor fort the UFO contact experience. I added an 11 minute clip from a previous podcast where I put two essays side by side, mine and Mac's.

There is also another segment where Richard gives a scathing critique of MUFON. He said what I have been thinking, and it needs to be shared!

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interview David Weatherly

July 24th, 2012

David Weatherly is a paranormal investigator and author. He’s been actively researching a wide range of paranormal weirdness for over 35 years, that means he started in his teens! He is the author of the recent book The Black Eyed Children.

Since childhood, David has studied Shamanic and magical traditions with elders from numerous cultures including Tibet, Native America, Europe and Africa. When I asked if he was a Shaman, he answered: “Yes, I am.” That was the answer I wanted!

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Charis Melina Brown / interview

July 20th, 2012

There is a pattern of young women coming forward with their experiences in a really bold way. Charis is a perfect example of one of these women, and she like the others, calls herself a Star-Seed.

Charis seems to match a sub-group of human kind that Dolores Cannon writes about in her book The Three Waves of the Volunteers and the New Earth. Charis fits neatly into the third wave. I’ll add that I seem to fit into the second wave, as does Charis’ father. We talk spend a lot of time talking about these separate waves of people with very telling UFO experiences.

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Robert Stanley / interview

June 18th, 2012

I feel crummy admitting this, but haven’t read either of Robert’s books. That said, I have listened to a lot of his audio interviews. I feel like I had a pretty good insight into key episodes of his life, and I really wanted to hear more because I thought he had a lot to offer. Our conversation strays well beyond the boundaries of just UFOs in the skies and alien entities in our lives. There is something far more complex going on; there is an overall richness to this phenomenon that gives me hope.

Formerly a corporate journalist, Robert is currently the editor of UNICUS magazine.

He is the author of two books on the UFO phenomenon; CLOSE ENCOUNTERS ON CAPITOL HILL (2006) and COVERT ENCOUNTERS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. (2011).

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Preston Dennett / interview

May 27th, 2012

I’ve always been intrigued by Preston Dennet. My only real exposure to him was from a few radio programs. My impression was that there was more going on than I was hearing in these short interviews. I mean, the guy has been researching UFOs for over a quarter of a century, he must have some ideas about what’s going on. That said, I feel like we both dug deep in this long conversation.

Preston Dennett began investigating UFOs and the paranormal in 1986 when he discovered that his family, friends and co-workers were having dramatic unexplained encounters. In the last 25 years he has interviewed hundreds of witnesses and investigated a wide variety of paranormal phenomena. He is a field investigator for MUFON, a ghost hunter, a paranormal researcher, and the author of fifteen books and more than 100 articles on UFOs and the paranormal.

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Barbara Lamb / interview

May 19th, 2012

There is a very curious pattern within the UFO abduction research community, more than a few of these dedicated researchers are also UFO abductees themselves. Barbara Lamb is both, she has had her own contact experiences as well as over 20 years of active research as a therapist.

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Jason Horsley / interview

March 26th, 2012

Jason Horsley is a writer, scholar, former podcaster and misadventurer. You might know him by his pseudonym Aeolus Kephas, or Jason Kephas, or just Jake. Who and what he might be is difficult to pin down. He wrote a book that I very much liked titled THE LUCID VIEW.

I do my best to keep up with Jason's mind, and hopefully there is plenty to chew on in this interview. We also talk about God, UFO abductions, unconscious filters, Jesus, Dr. Steven Greer, the ego and the metaphoric map.

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Arthur C. Clarke and multiple UFO sightings

March 19th, 2012

Arthur C. Clarke claims to seen UFOs, and potentially more than a few of 'em. This is a short audio essay where I link together a few clips from Dr. Leo Sprinkle and Clarke himself. The implications are curious.

Only six minutes long.

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Rosemary Ellen Guiley / interview

March 6th, 2012

Rosemary is one of the rare experts on wide range of paranormal phenomena. She's authored more than 50 books on wide range of occult, spiritual, and mystical topics. She has been a full-time researcher since 1983, and her present focus has been inter-dimensional entity contact experiences (including UFO abduction accounts), problem hauntings, Shadow People, the Djinn and portals or geographic areas of intense paranormal activity.

During our conversation we attempt to avoid the tiny boxes that confine too much of the research, instead we speculate about the meta-phenomena that could be at the core of the many divergent experiences. We jump from the Djinn to UFO abduction to owls and faeries.

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owls and sychronicity with Micah Hanks

February 16th, 2012

Micah Hanks invited me to talk about owls and synchronicity on his GRALIEN REPORT podcast. We both bat around the owl meme and what it might imply. I share a few of my owl experiences and Micah tries to interpret their meaning. We spoke for about 45 minutes, and that conversation is logged on the audio-file below.

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Darryl Anka / interview

February 16th, 2012

Darryl Anka claims to have direct contact with a higher dimensional being who goes by the name of Bashar. This ability was set into motion by two close UFO sightings in 1973.

This stuff is easy to parody, but I take it seriously. It seems like I'm one of the few individuals that will acknowledge that channeled information is interwoven into the overall UFO phenomenon. There is an unmistakable pattern of people who claim the direct contact experience who will also say that they channel.

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Jordan Maxwell / syncronicities and reptilians

February 13th, 2012

Profound synchronicities are intertwined with the life of a researcher out at the edge. This is a follow-up audio clip from Jordan Maxwell. It's a companion to a post from last week, posted below.

Fireballs from heaven, the International House of Pancakes, ritual magic and giant reptilians. These are all part of this 22 minute audio excerpt.

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Jordan Maxwell / UFO encounters

February 13th, 2012

Jordan Maxwell tells a first person experience in his youth that I found absolutely fascinating. I am posting a short (22 minute) excerpt of this audio interview. This experience took place when he was a teenager in 1959 in North Hollywood. It involves UFOs and a defining life experience.

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Whitley Strieber / interview

January 20th, 2012

If anyone has made it to my site, there shouldn’t be any need to introduce Whitley Strieber.

His most recent book is titled SOLVING THE COMMUNION ENIGMA. During our conversation we attempt to articulate what it might mean to SOLVE this elusive enigma. In this book, and in the original COMMUNION from 25 years ago, there is a relentless kind of thoughtful questioning. It is both wide-ranging and deeply personal.

Whitley said this when attempting to define the overall phenomenon: This might be what the force of evolution looks like when it is applied to a conscious mind. This quote might seem like a clever mind-puzzle, but it forms the foundation of his recent book, and this interview.

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William Henry / interview

January 19th, 2012

William Henry calls himself an investigative Mythologyst, and that’s a term I really like. I’ve followed his work for the last decade, and I am continually impressed with his ideas and insights. He has researched ancient Egyptian artwork, pre-Renaissance art, gnostic texts and hidden messages within the world's mythology.

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Alan Abbadessa Green / interview

December 3rd, 2011

Alan just published a book on a subject dear to my heart, synchronicity. He payed the role of editor and collected 26 essays on the subject and compiled them under the title THE SYNC BOOK.

During the podcast Alan shares a personal experience that transcends mere synchronicty, and feels more like direct contact with a mystical overlord. This ethereal presence claims to be communicating from Sirius! This is the kind of thing that gets my attention.

Topics discussed include: The 9-11 mega-ritual, Jake Kotze, UFO’s, the contact experience, spiritual journeys, lottery tickets, 2001: A SPACE ODDESY, Charlton Heston in PLANET OF THE APES, Jared Lee Loughner and Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, owls, communications from Sirius, direct gnosis, Steve Willner, David Bowman, David Bowie, stuffy academics and Osiris.

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Peter Robbins / interview

November 7th, 2011

For over 30 years Peter worked closely with Budd Hopkins, during a chapter of history where the UFO abduction phenomenon first made it's way into the public's psyche. Together, Peter and I spend over two-hours in conversation about Budd and his life as an artist and researcher.

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Jeff Kripal / interview

November 6th, 2011

The book MUTANTS AND MYSTICS explores the how comic books and science fiction are somehow intertwined with profound mystical experiences, including the UFO contact lore. This is the kinda stuff that gets my attention!

Delving deeply into the work of major figures in the field—from Jack Kirby’s cosmic superhero sagas and Philip K. Dick’s futuristic head-trips to Alan Moore’s sex magic and Whitley Strieber’s communion with visitors, this book explores how creators turned to science fiction to convey the reality of the inexplicable and the paranormal they experienced in their lives. Expanded consciousness found its language in the metaphors of sci-fi and the incredible powers of the comic book super hero. From gnostic revelation, alien abduction and an awareness of the imaginal.

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Alan Caviness / interview

October 31st, 2011

I found Alan's website (linked HERE) when I googled Owls & UFOs, and this took me to a fascinating report titled The Owl & Deer Incidents. This report was written in such a careful and thorough way, that it intrigued me to dig deeper into his site. As I read more, I realized that Alan is more than just a researcher, he's also an abductee. This combination is fascinating to me, and I realized I needed to interview him.

We cover a wealth of subjects including: UFOs, owls, the abduction phenomenon, synchronicities, military involvement, the term "compelled" and it's implications, and trying to remain objective as a researcher.

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Fred Burks / interview

October 20th, 2011

Fred Burks is a very dedicated researcher who is trying to make known horrors of mind control. He has been working hard to share reliable verifiable information on this challenging subject. He has a web-site called WANT TO KNOW, where he has been cataloging a wealth of substantiated documentation.

We went into the deep waters, and looked at UFOs, alternate realms, time travel, 2012, occult rituals, Dr. Steven Greer and Luciferian agendas. Somehow, these concepts are interwoven int the claims of the people who report trauma based mind-control.

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Walter Bosley / interview

October 2nd, 2011

The book EMPIRE OF THE WHEEL is a true crime mystery, but within it’s pages, more questions are raised than answered.

Murder, espionage and occult rituals are all intertwined in the narrative of this book. It doesn’t end there, because synchronicities, odd coincidences and un-answered questions were all part of the process of researching this eerie case. To make things even stranger, it has connections to the Zodiac killer from the 1960's.

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Sesh Heri / interview

September 8th, 2011

Sesh Heri is the author of a fascinating book titled THE HANDPRINT OF ATLAS. This book is a study of topographical emergence, a term he coined to better understand the deeper meaning of ley lines and their impact on our consciousness. We mostly focus on this book and his remarkable conclusions, but the more interesting aspect to this story is how his research is all wrapped up in his own personal journey.

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Trish and Rob MacGregor / inteview

July 28th, 2011

Synchronicity is an an elusive subject, but it's been the focus of the last three books written together by the husband and wife team of Trish and Rob MacGregor. They've also created a website with a daily posting about synchronicity called Synchro Secrets.

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Brad Steiger / interview 2011

June 21st, 2011

Brad Steiger is one of the hard working giants in this field. I was delighted and honored to spend an hour listening to his deep voice on subjects that I find profoundly interesting.

Brad and his wife, Sherry Hansen Steiger, just published a book titled Real Aliens, Space Beings and Creatures form Other Worlds.

This interview is focused on only three chapters of the book; Contactees, Abductees and The Star People. The implications of these subjects is the stuff that absolutely fascinates me. It was a delight to get to ask Mr. Steiger for his insights on these mysterious topics.

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Nick Redfern / interview / men in black

June 18th, 2011

Nick Redfern is back! This is his third visit, and he shares details and insights from his latest book, THE REAL MEN IN BLACK.

This is a look into the elusive stories of these denizens of the outer edge of an already strange phenomenon. Nick talks about the reports of MIBs throughout the modern era of the UFO phenomenon, as well as recent tales from people who are presently experiencing high strangeness.

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Joe Montaldo / interview / part TWO

June 6th, 2011

Part TWO of the audio interview (part one below).

This guy is on fire with a mission, and he is forging ahead with his work. He takes the role of "communicator" seriously!

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Joe Montaldo / interview / part ONE

June 6th, 2011

Joe is one intense dude!

Get ready, this is a whirlwind interview. This guy has a way of stating some pretty hard to grasp stuff and then just roling on to the next thing. I needed to jump in a bunch of times and get him to clairify where he got that info. I felt like I played a good role during this interview, because I got Joe to share some pretty impressive findings.

Joe Montaldo has been doing UFO research for almost 30 years. He's is Co-Founder, International Director and Spokesperson for I.C.A.R. the International Community for Alien Research. The organization's main focus is on Alien Abductions and the Alien Agenda. I.C.A.R. claims to have investigated over 5000 cases of Alien contact and abductions.

He is also the host of the on-line radio program, UFO Undercover, with a focus on the alien abduction phenomenon.

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Christopher Knowles / interview on the ECH

May 30th, 2011

Christopher Knowles has coined a new term, The ELUSIVE COMPANION HYPOTHESIS (the ECH) as a way to better articulate the elusive meta-weirdness that surrounds the UFO phenomenon.

This term emerged during a series of five excellent posts on his blog, THE SECRET SUN. This set of farsighted essays paints a swirling entanglement of UFOs, Jack Kirby, Stanley Kubrick, Arthur C. Clarke, ancient astronauts, synchronicities, The Watchers, science fiction, nightmares, human evolution - and - alien abductees.

We dig into all those topics, and more. I also ask him about a very creepy glowing figure he saw last summer at night with his dog, and this experience is downright (sorry to use the word, but) paranormal!

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Micah Hanks / interview

May 11th, 2011

Micah and I ponder the mystical implications of the Wizard in the Backyard (whatever that means) and lots more.

Micah is the author of MAGIC, MYSTICISM & the MOLECULE. This book explores many of the mysteries of human consciousness that have alluded mystics and scholars for centuries. It is an in depth investigation and analyses of the convergence of psychology, the paranormal, and historical mystical practices dating back to the dawn of humanity.

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Dr. Janet Elizabeth Colli

May 1st, 2011

During the interview we ponder the term “subtle realms” as way to describe the indescribable. We attempt to name a place just beyond our grasp, what it might mean. I asked how her patients report their “altered states” of consciousness. Can you try and describe that realm. And how her role as a therapist attempt to re-access these altered states of consciousness?

During the interview I share a personal experience with, what might be, that very strange ALTERED REALITY realm. And follow it up with a funny dream of the UFO in my brother’s garage. Dr. Colli is a therapist, and during our conversation I speak quite openly about my dealings with clinical depression. I was very tempted to edit out this section of the interview because it I talk about some very personal stuff. But I really feel that it’s relevant to some of the bigger questions that we attempt to unravel.

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Greg Bishop / interview

April 27th, 2011

This is a wide ranging conversation that goes all over the map. We attempt to make sense out of some of the more elusive topics in the already confusing realm of the UFO phenomenon.

Greg is an author of a UFO book without any UFO's. PROJECT BETA is sub-titled: The Story of Paul Bennewitz, National Security, and the Creation of a Modern UFO Myth. It deals with the confusing issues that arise when the government uses UFOs as an aggressive form of disinformation, and how insanity can follow.

And just so y'know, we never really mention the book during this interviw. This seems to proove that Greg is not using my humble blog to try and shamelessly promote his book. That said, I feel strongly that you should go out and buy it.

We also look into Greg's very own UFO sighting from last month. He saw a curious object sit frozen in the sky despite high winds.

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Phil Imbrogno / interview on high strangeness

April 17th, 2011

Philip J. Imbrogno is a scientist.

That said, he sure ain’t timid about jumping into some of the deepest waters of the paranormal phenomenon and all its associated weirdness.

This interview is focused mostly on the abduction phenomenon, and how it has evolved over the decades. Plus, we attempt to connect a few dots as to how this phenomenon is intertwined with other paranormal strangeness.

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Marisa Ryan / psychic session

April 11th, 2011

This morning I found an almost forgotten digital audio file on my computer. It was a recorded audio session with myself and a skilled psychic named Marisa Ryan. When I re-listened to it, I was struck by a a few things. First, I was impressed by how accurate she was with her set of insights about me and my on-going weirdness. The other was how freakin' anxious and tormented I sound!
This session with Marisa is just a little over two years old, and my voice from that point in my life seems a lot different than how I'm feeling today. At least I hope so. I've added some updated editorializing to the original session.
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Audio essay from LUMINOSITY

March 23rd, 2011

This morning I read a blog posting from site called LUMINOSITY. The essay that totally amazed me. I felt totally compelled to record it, with me reading aloud, as an audio essay.

Dan Mitchell wrote it and the essay is titled Approaching the Post Human Self. It describes his profoundly intense first-person experiences the night of the super moon.

Below is a short excerpt from the fascinating post.

"Within moments of looking at this light I found myself no longer standing in my backyard, but in a large open room. Whether I was taken on board some kind of aerial craft, I cannot say for certain. What I will say is that the experience at this point became more real than my own waking conscious is capable of perceiving even on my sharpest days. In other words, I was more conscious than I normally am, and I was in a room that had clearer and sharper angles than anything I had ever seen in my life.

It was almost as if I had left the human sphere entirely and entered into a place that was more real than this world. I felt unimaginably well although I felt puzzled at the same time. This part of the experience leads me to believe I was neither in or out of body, which really makes no sense."

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Nick Redfern / interview on the ETH

March 12th, 2011

The acronym ETH stands for Extra Terrestrial Hypothesis, and it's long been the mainstay of how we look at the UFO phenomenon. The easy way to wrap your head around the flying saucer mystery is to simply declare that this mystery has it's home in outer space. But, there is something much more bizarre going on here, and the ETH falls apart if you really look at it. As Nick says, it's not just that it's weird, it's TOO weird.

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Kim Carlsberg / inteview

January 17th, 2011

Kim is the author of a book titled Beyond My Wildest Dreams, with illustrations by Darryl Anka. She is also the editor of a recent published book titled The Art of Close Encounters which features illustrations and first hand experiences by UFO contactees, along with artwork that depicts their memories.

This was decidedly NOT an interview, instead it was a perfectly enjoyable conversation, seemingly without any framework or direction. But, I feel like we covered more ideas more deeply than we ever could have in a standard interview format.

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Dr. Leo Sprinkle / interview

January 5th, 2011

I am perfectly honored to have shared two hours in recorded conversation with Dr. Leo Sprinkle. This man's biography reads like a checklist of every major event in the modern era of UFO research.

He is now 80 years old and at the top of his game. And, after a half century of looking into the UFO phenomenon, he is still open minded and optimistic. I envy his child-like outlook in a realm full of deception and terrifying first hand accounts.

During this interview Leo says: "The map ain't necessarily the territory." That short phrase sums up a lot of our conversation as well as my personal challenges around the UFO phenomenon.

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Marla Frees / interview

December 18th, 2010

Marla Frees is a very powerful psychic that palyed an important role in my life. We had a psychic session together in October of 2009 that proved to be rediculously profound. This interview was recorded in April of 2010, as a follow up to our previous session, and as a way to make sense of some ongoing synchronicites in my life.

We are both in great form, and we share insights and personal stories. Much less and interview, and much more a conversation!

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Andy Colvin / interview

December 15th, 2010

Andy Colvin witnessed the Mothman as a boy in Charleston West Virginia, and in the aftermath he claims to have had powerful experiences that go well beyond simply seeing a large red-eyed winged creature. And these experiences have followed him to this day.

His obsessive role as a researcher has culminated in three books and a 36-hour documentary (that's not a typo) earning him the title The Mothman Photographer.

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Jake Kotze / interview

November 27th, 2010

I love the term Synchromysticism, it was coined by the young enigmatic film-maker, Jake Kotze. From his home in Winnipeg Manitoba, he has creating a series of delightful videos that attempt to define an elusive force that is welling up all around us.

Pop culture is easily dismissed as trite and vapid, and it can be dismissed by those searching for deep metaphysical answers. But hidden within the soup of our mundane movies and TV shows is a path to the divine. We dig deep into psychedelics, interacting with aliens, crop-circles and transformative experiences all interwoven with synchronicities.

His videos can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Seallion#p/u/10/i9kXdfDBlCY

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Lucretia Heart / interview

November 16th, 2010

Lucretia Heart is a pen name. She shares her abduction and UFO related experiences on a haunting blog titled At Spiral’s End. Her written work is a collection of deeply personal life events.

As a writer, Lucretia has been extremely prolific, there is a huge volume of profound experiences posted on her blog. But somehow, we mange to avoid re-telling too much. Our conversation and it’s details is almost entirely composed of events that have never been shared on-line.

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Melinda Leslie / interview

November 9th, 2010

Melinda Leslie has been public with her own abduction experiences for over 18 years. For the last 15 of those years she has been actively researching the involvement of a clandestine group in the lives of abductees. This research into the covert-operations of alien abductees is re-defining both the UFO cover-up and abduction paradigms. She has uncovered an ongoing program of monitoring, harassment and re-abduction of very vulnerable people.

Her years of investigation has meant the accumulation of a lot of data and detailed experiences, including her own. The covert-operations that invade the lives of the abductees be the best evidence for both the reality and importance of UFO abduction experiences.

Recorded November 5th 2010

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Mac Tonnies on C2C

November 2nd, 2010

A half hour excerpt of Mac's strong clear voice talking about his final book, The Cryptoterestrials.

He was always a welcome guest on a wide variety of esoteric podcasts, but this performance on C2C was particularly impressive. He beautifully conveys his insights to a very mainstream audience. He had a way of articulating EXACTLY what I feel in my bones. He said it better and clearer than I ever could.

Mac covers a lot in this first half hour, a great intro to anyone unfamiliar with his work. If you listen, you'll be treated to a remarkable set of ideas. You get the sense that George Noory is unwittingly drawn into a deeper place as he talks with Mac.

Recorded September 2009

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essays about cats / Mac Tonnies

October 26th, 2010

A short posting where I compare the ideas of Mac Tonnies and an essay I wrote about playing with cats and the UFO phenomenon. Included is Mac reading his own curiously similar story. The written post can be found HERE.

Recorded 2009

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Nick Redfern / interview

October 26th, 2010

Nick talks in depth about his new book FINAL EVENTS. Demons, fundamentalism, occult rituals, secret government think tanks, Alister Crowley, heavy-handed satanic deception and plans for global control all collide together.

Recorded September 2010

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Christopher Knowles / interview october 2010

October 26th, 2010

On October 13th there was a flurry of UFOs reported above Manhattan. We dig into the inevitable hoax revelations following this kind of thing in the mainstream media, the use of deception as media experiments, the nature of the phenomenon and the various controversies surround it, the strange timing of the NYC “sightings” hot on the heels of all of the stories about UFOs, space travel, exoplanets and much, much more.

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Christopher Knowles / interview august 2010

October 26th, 2010

The blurring of ancient mythology and modern pop culture, with a focus on the UFO experience in these turbulent times.

Recorded August 2010.

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Christopher Knowles / interview 2009

October 26th, 2010

The author of OUR GODS WEAR SPANDEX tries to unravel the mythic sybology that lurks within our popular culture.

Recorded July 2009.

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Regan Lee / interview

October 26th, 2010

A fellow experiencer (and blogger) shares her stories and insights.

Recorded January 2010

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Anya Briggs / interview (part 1)

October 26th, 2010

Psychic, experiencer, channel and comedian. A roller-coaster ride into realms within our reach!

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Anya Briggs / interview (part 2)

October 26th, 2010

Anya continues sharing her life experiences, and she honors us with a channeled session.

Recorded December 2009

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Chuck Weiss / interview

October 26th, 2010

A wide ranging interview about the direct experience of alien abduction and government harassment form a compelling voice for the reality of this strange phenomenon.

One of my very favorite interviews, highly recommended.

Recorded September 2010

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